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Post by bluedemon25 on Jun 9, 2023 17:03:26 GMT
Definitely how that above news I mention makes me feel at least the bit towards the end of this clip.
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Post by donavan on Jun 9, 2023 22:38:28 GMT
Fuck me man. Why so worried? They are all a piece of shit. Make your own way in life. We get the odd good guy before they give up and become corrupt.
Imagine if all the boys in jail Could get out now together Whadda you think they'd want to say to us? While we was being clever.
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Post by bluedemon25 on Jun 9, 2023 23:51:59 GMT
I'm sincerely not sure I understand everything you're trying to tell me. Certainly I woke up and that really was the first thing I saw I May have reacted a little more strongly than if it weren't the literal first thing I read upon getting up. Nonetheless I don't know if you've seen what happened with her and how much of a cluster f*** she is and incompetent for the position it would seem from everything I've read I do not want to see this jackass in orange spray tan, skate on charges, because of sycophantic blatantly corrupt BS "judge". As far as other people coming out in a theoretical situation having something to say I don't know Don. I don't think I'd want to talk to them but I'm not holding back from calling someone an a****** a sycophant or a seemingly incompetent corrupt POS when they're a public figure that does enormous damage to the country.(for another lovely example see the Senate minority leader or house majority leader who've earn similar monikers as far as I'm concerned)
That said whatever difference of opinion we may have my fondness for all of you remains.
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Post by donavan on Jun 10, 2023 7:10:31 GMT
I was just saying the system is fucked. Even more so these days. We have lost and have no say. It's exhausting. So why try harder?
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Post by longinglook on Jun 10, 2023 15:06:00 GMT
Yeah, just lie back, relax and make it easy for the fascists. What's the point of fighting for yourself and your beliefs? Who wants to go down swinging when you can just roll over and let them stick it to you quietly?
Great advice.
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Post by donavan on Jun 10, 2023 17:32:52 GMT
Yeah, just lie back, relax and make it easy for the fascists. What's the point of fighting for yourself and your beliefs? Who wants to go down swinging when you can just roll over and let them stick it to you quietly? Great advice. Oh god 🙄 Lurking is easy with eyes closed misunderstanding all you see 😏 And it wasn't advice rather my experience so calm down. If you want to discuss it don't attack me Trump style. We have spoken privately about my politics. You have joined the political attack circus which I have rejected. Good luck with that.
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Post by miles on Jun 10, 2023 23:42:17 GMT
Don you have every right to your opinion. Objectively, "We have lost" is the essence of defeatism. I give up hope a couple times a week. I can see why LL responded the way she did, apathy can be as deadly as fanaticism.
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Post by donavan on Jun 11, 2023 4:36:35 GMT
Take my situation. I signed a contract over 30 years ago at work. The Tory government ripped it up and sacked people with very little compensation. My union went to the high court and won the case. The government raised new legislation which allowed them to not honour a workplace contract. The case went back to the high court where they won. It was largely unopposed by the Labour party. We are now all being disposed of on the cheap. We demonstrated and had strikes but it made no difference.
The truth is when you do not have a political party to vote for, where is the democracy? And voting for the lesser of two evils doesn't give anyone the moral high ground. In fact defending the indefensible is really just supporting the status quo. So apathy cuts both ways.
Divide and conquer, eh?
Ever feel like you've been cheated?
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Post by longinglook on Jun 11, 2023 11:13:05 GMT
I was not trying to attack you, so I apologize for making you feel that way. Of course, your situation with your job is grossly unfair and a terrible thing to have happened to you. It is heartbreaking when things you trusted in let you down, whether in business or just in life. Come the revolution, I hope those Tory fucks are the first up against the wall. But while I wait for that hopeful turn of the karmic wheel, I still advocate for not rolling over and playing dead, especially these days. Honestly, I am a very non-confrontational person by nature. Avoiding issues, people, places, and things in general has always appealed to me. However, as I rapidly age and am confronted by the stunning insanity of current events, I strongly feel none of us has the luxury of ignoring what is happening around us. You either have to give yourself up to the crazy or you have to stand up and try to kick it in the teeth, as best you can. And giving up doesn't strike me as the way to go. You don't only take on fights you think you're going to win. You fight for what is just, whatever the outcome. At least that is what I think.
I also think Political Attack Circus is a pretty good band name. Suggested first album title: Light a Candle or Curse the Darkness.
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Post by donavan on Jun 11, 2023 12:11:34 GMT
😃 But apart from putting a X on a piece of paper now and again for a candidate you have little respect for and maybe going on the odd rally and town hall meeting, what can I do.
It's not giving up, it's facing reality. Has the system defeated me, yes it has. And here's the rub, it's probably defeated you too. You just don't know it yet.
When you think things can't get any worse they usually do. And no amount a placard waving is going to change that.
I hope I'm wrong but somehow I doubt it.
Good luck with any campaigns you are involved in. I wish you well. 🙂
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Post by donavan on Jun 11, 2023 15:02:54 GMT
Just read this whole thread back and it's quite amusing. And we all seem to be getting along famously 😃
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Post by miles on Jun 12, 2023 0:55:26 GMT
Peace, brothers and sisters.
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Post by bluedemon25 on Jun 12, 2023 1:05:08 GMT
Still waiting for that single would that be on a 45 for digital release?
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Post by donavan on Jun 12, 2023 23:16:32 GMT
UPDATE -
My wife was made redundant today with no pay off and no payment of wages owed. Waved through by the local labour MP's and no comment from opposition parties. I contacted my local Labour MP who was not interested.
I'm punch drunk. I did my best and will continue to do so. It's not about giving up when you are out of options. So within a week we have both been fucked over.
And I'm supposed to give a fuck?
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Post by miles on Jun 17, 2023 0:32:28 GMT
UPDATE - My wife was made redundant today with no pay off and no payment of wages owed. Waved through by the local labour MP's and no comment from opposition parties. I contacted my local Labour MP who was not interested. I'm punch drunk. I did my best and will continue to do so. It's not about giving up when you are out of options. So within a week we have both been fucked over. And I'm supposed to give a fuck? That is crap. I'm sorry Don.
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