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Post by longinglook on Jun 19, 2016 22:39:22 GMT
So you smokers, is pot a gateway drug to the harder stuff? What happens when weed becomes the norm and you need a bigger fix? Whenever I get tired of smoking, I often have a strong tendency to turn to the harder stuff. When I get like that, I've been known to drink up to three glasses of wine in one sitting. No too often, though. That alcohol can kill you!
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Post by donavan on Jun 20, 2016 6:11:32 GMT
But in fairness you probably used alcohol before you smoked weed. So you did go from a few drinks to unwind to smoking pot. A few glasses of wine won't kill you just like the odd joint won't. I don't know about over there but going from alcohol to weed is considered a step up here.
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Post by donavan on Jun 20, 2016 6:58:58 GMT
Plus there are different marijuana strengths. You could step up within the same drug. Like mostly drinking beer but moving to mostly wine or spirits. Both can be done responsibly. There is a tendency for smokers to defend the use of marijuana by attacking people who drink alcohol. Which is unfortunate and silly. Many smokers drink alcohol too. And do both mostly in a responsible way.
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Post by bimble on Jun 20, 2016 14:21:23 GMT
I believe weed is a gateway drug for those predisposed to go further "up the scale" to heavy abuse of and/or addiction to more serious substances in the same way that that first glass of alcohol is the gateway to alcoholism for those predisposed to it. Legalisation, and government control and regulation of recreational drugs, could remove the criminal activity around feeding a habit, and would also ensure purity of substances. Many deaths caused by drug abuse come from the violence of the gangs controlling the supply, and the shit used to cut them by unscrupulous dealers as well as the classic "pure batch" that gets onto the streets causing the unwary to OD.
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Post by peggs on Jun 20, 2016 15:46:40 GMT
With drug use in general (both legal and not), my question is this: Are you willing to take the chance of using any drug, not knowing if you are predisposed to becoming addicted? Each person has to answer that for her or him self.
Had someone asked me that question when I was young, I would have dismissed it out right.
I did the whole too much of everything/experimenting in my youth, unaware that addiction (alcoholism) was part of my lineage. By my late 20’s the thrill of drugs had lost their appeal. I was one of the lucky ones.
All that said, I smoked cigarettes for 40 years; one of the most dangerous and addictive drugs available.
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Post by longinglook on Jun 21, 2016 3:40:37 GMT
Plus there are different marijuana strengths. You could step up within the same drug. Like mostly drinking beer but moving to mostly wine or spirits. Both can be done responsibly. There is a tendency for smokers to defend the use of marijuana by attacking people who drink alcohol. Which is unfortunate and silly. Many smokers drink alcohol too. And do both mostly in a responsible way. My post wasn't meant to attack you or any other imbiber of alcohol. I was just making a weak joke about what I see as the double standard of treating marijuana as some sort of very dangerous, scary substance while treating alcohol, (or tobacco, if you like), as just things regular people do. Even if they can eventually kill you. As bimble said, some people smoke weed and then end up on heroin. Other people smoke weed and just end up wanting a pizza. Some people start out with a beer on Saturday nights and end up downing a fifth of Jack every morning until their liver gives out. I know I'm paraphasing, but didn't bimble say something like that? The other joke in my last post was that part about "... when I get tired of smoking weed..." That really cracked me up.
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Post by donavan on Jun 21, 2016 8:06:00 GMT
I don't think anyone has double standards in this thread about the dangers of alcohol. I've even said if alcohol was invented just now it would be banned. But alcohol is constantly quoted by smokers to justify their habit. Which is ridiculous because no justification is needed and each indulgence should be looked at individually and not in comparison. We all have different tolerance levels for different substances.
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Post by longinglook on Jun 21, 2016 11:47:29 GMT
I don't think anyone has double standards in this thread about the dangers of alcohol. Really? Would it ever have even occurred to you to ask, "After you had those first beers, did it make you want to try the harder stuff?"
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Post by donavan on Jun 21, 2016 18:54:19 GMT
I don't think anyone has double standards in this thread about the dangers of alcohol. Really? Would it ever have even occurred to you to ask, "After you had those first beers, did it make you want to try the harder stuff?" Plus there are different marijuana strengths. You could step up within the same drug. Like mostly drinking beer but moving to mostly wine or spirits. Both can be done responsibly. Did you read that? I wanted to reignite the debate so deliberately chose my words to get a reaction. I got the reaction I expected. And what I asked about stepping up is a reasonable question which is asked all the time. You could have just answered, "I have no urge to step up." But again you keep mentioning alcohol. I have no problem with weed but find the constant comparison to alcohol tedious.
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Post by donavan on Jun 22, 2016 11:17:12 GMT
I'll tell you what Longy, I'll open a bottle of Chardonnay, you roll a couple of joints for later. Wasp Star playing in the background and you can explain to me the rules to that funny game of football that you like. No funny business mind.
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Post by longinglook on Jun 22, 2016 12:19:05 GMT
I'll do my best to keep you from the hard stuff.
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Post by donavan on Jun 22, 2016 12:56:33 GMT
I'll do my best to keep you from the hard stuff. Naughty, naughty, very naughty
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Post by donavan on Jul 21, 2016 16:24:13 GMT
Love is the Drug
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Post by peggs on Jul 21, 2016 23:24:03 GMT
Pardon me if this question veers off the topic but I ask it sincerely. How, where, when and why did '420' become associated with pot smoking? Is it an american thing? Please explain. Thank you.
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Post by donavan on Jul 22, 2016 6:48:12 GMT
No idea.
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