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Post by Mare on Sept 9, 2021 17:18:26 GMT
2600. Dammit, wrong thread! Immo have to call you out on that one, Intro. You don't make mistakes.
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Post by donavan on Sept 9, 2021 22:08:24 GMT
2601
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Post by Mare on Sept 10, 2021 18:17:49 GMT
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Post by donavan on Sept 11, 2021 0:00:49 GMT
Yes. In a loving way. Hope you get that. x
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Post by Mare on Sept 11, 2021 16:52:57 GMT
Of course I do.
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Post by donavan on Sept 11, 2021 22:47:33 GMT
Of course I do. It's well known you lot over there don't get our humour. Jeff Truzzi told me Americans don't do irony. He was right, well not all of you of course. And I walk on egg shells on here and post less because of all of that. But that's ok. Our girl just won the USA tennis open in New York just now. Anybody watch it?
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Post by Finntrovertigo on Sept 12, 2021 0:06:26 GMT
No, not a tennis fan. And when I was a graduate student studying English and taught freshman comp, I recommended that we use textbooks where ironic passages were highlighted, possibly with a color-coded font, as my students had no fucking clue when writers were using irony.
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Post by donavan on Sept 12, 2021 3:08:13 GMT
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late.
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Post by Finntrovertigo on Sept 12, 2021 3:52:51 GMT
If the execution takes place on the inmate's birthday, at least you can console yourself with, "It's the thought that counts."
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Post by donavan on Sept 12, 2021 8:49:02 GMT
Indeed. You don't give to get back.
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Post by Mare on Sept 13, 2021 16:16:27 GMT
It's well known you lot over there don't get our humour. Jeff Truzzi told me Americans don't do irony. He was right, well not all of you of course. And I walk on egg shells on here and post less because of all of that. But that's ok. I get irony, and I appreciate it. (Hence, the trio of cackling emoji.) Irony is diverse and defined in many specific ways. Maybe I posted my query of mockery in Romantic Irony. Maybe it was Socratic Irony. A little of both? I think the exact definition would be determined by my mood at the time of typing. Sarcasm, however, I don't appreciate and have tried to curtail my own urges to be sarcastic and to overreact to the sarcasm of others. Sarcasm is just plain meanness. Sarcasm is an emotional time bomb, just waiting for someone to pick it up. That's when it goes off. To me, sarcasm demonstrates an ulterior motive-provocation. Perhaps that is the whole deal behind why people often times misinterpret irony-they identify it as sarcasm. Huh.
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Post by Mare on Sept 13, 2021 16:31:27 GMT
And when I was a graduate student studying English and taught freshman comp, I recommended that we use textbooks where ironic passages were highlighted, possibly with a color-coded font, as my students had no fucking clue when writers were using irony. I see what you mean and that was a good idea...footnotes would work, also, if the text was specifically edited for irony...print outs, maybe. A lot of work, but worth it in the end, I think. From wikipedia Irony: "No agreed-upon method for indicating irony in written text exists, though many ideas have been suggested. For instance, an irony punctuation mark was proposed in the 1580s, when Henry Denham introduced a rhetorical question mark or percontation point, which resembles a reversed question mark. This mark was also advocated by the French poet Marcel Bernhardt at the end of the 19th century, to indicate irony or sarcasm. French writer Hervé Bazin suggested another pointe d'ironie: the Greek letter psi Ψ with a dot below it, while Tom Driberg recommended that ironic statements should be printed in italics that lean the other way from conventional italics."1. 1. This was cited as [80] Houston, K Shady Characters: The Secret Life of Punctuation, Symbols, and Other Typographical Marks WW Norton & Company, 2013 pp. 211-244
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Post by donavan on Sept 13, 2021 16:54:45 GMT
If you have to tell someone you are being ironic it sort of defeats the object. Sarcasm has it's place if done in the correct manner. My wife keeps making sarcastic comments about my receding hairline. It's starting to wear a bit thin now.
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Post by Nonsuch Ned on Jun 23, 2022 20:20:28 GMT
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Post by donavan on Jun 23, 2022 20:29:04 GMT
Ned's DMT is kicking in.
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